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Between Two Chains Ep 3: Future of Blockchain Interoperability with Zero Knowledge (Reka, RISC Zero)

Between Two Chains Ep 3: Future of Blockchain Interoperability with Zero Knowledge (Reka, RISC Zero)

Duration: 00:30:18
July 15, 2025
  • The guest, Reika_ET from Risk Zero, explains zero-knowledge (ZK) technology solves scaling, interoperability, and privacy issues by moving complex computations off-chain and posting only small, verifiable proofs on-chain.
  • ZK is especially crucial for scaling solutions like rollups, enabling significantly greater computational capacity and functionality across an increasing number of blockchains.
  • Solving the challenge of interoperability will unlock a new wave of diverse applications and a redefined user experience, such as streamlined wallet interactions that abstract away the complexities of managing multiple chains and bridging assets.
Between Two Chains Ep 2: How is Interoperability Solved? w/Jill Gunter (Espresso)

Between Two Chains Ep 2: How is Interoperability Solved? w/Jill Gunter (Espresso)

Duration: 00:39:16
July 8, 2025
  • Jill argues that "infra for infra" chains, like Espresso, are essential for unlocking composability between chains, allowing developers to build innovative, permissionless applications.
  • Despite progress, there's a gap between developers who claim "interoperability is solved" and end users who experience significant friction when interacting with different chains and applications.
  • A key challenge for the crypto space is balancing UX and security, requiring infra builders and app developers to create user-friendly experiences without compromising decentralization and privacy.
Between Two Chains Ep 1: Improving Blockchain Interoperability for Users w/Nitya & Aditi (Para)

Between Two Chains Ep 1: Improving Blockchain Interoperability for Users w/Nitya & Aditi (Para)

Duration: 00:43:37
July 1, 2025
  • Parah aims to eliminate the need for users to directly manage wallets by focusing on a seamless sign-in experience centered around identity and portability of information.
  • The discussion highlighted the importance of interoperability beyond just value transfer, emphasizing the potential for connecting web2 and web3 data to create a more user-friendly and composable ecosystem.
  • A key point revolved around balancing security with convenience in wallet design, suggesting the need for a modular approach that allows users to customize permissions and protect themselves from irreversible transactions.
TRAILER: Introducing Between Two Chains, a Rehash Production with LayerZero

TRAILER: Introducing Between Two Chains, a Rehash Production with LayerZero

Duration: 00:04:56
June 27, 2025
  • The podcast series "Between Two Chains" explores the contentious debate around interoperability in crypto.
  • The hosts approach the topic of interoperability – or "interop" – from differing perspectives: one as an end-user and the other as a "defected user enjoyer".
  • The series aims to discuss what's next for crypto and decentralized applications in a world where interoperability is either already solved or approaching a state where builders can focus on cross-chain application development.
S11 E9 | Insights on the Future of DeSci w/Tarun Chitra (Gauntlet)

S11 E9 | Insights on the Future of DeSci w/Tarun Chitra (Gauntlet)

Duration: 00:46:47
May 1, 2025
  • Terun argues that government-funded science is better for exploratory research, while privately funded science is more effective for well-scoped problems.
  • DI, or decentralized science, is philosophically sound but suffers from a lack of accountability and community oversight, contributing to scam-like behavior.
  • While financial incentives are inherent in decentralized systems, integrating AI could abstract away the complexities, allowing users to engage without direct financial considerations and fostering more token-less community engagement.
MINIHASH 009 | Resisting State Capture w/Spencer Graham (Hats)

MINIHASH 009 | Resisting State Capture w/Spencer Graham (Hats)

Duration: 00:21:39
April 24, 2025
  • The "anti-capture framework" addresses how to protect shared resources from abuse, both internal and external, within organizations like DAOs.
  • A key insight of the framework is that the execution phase of an action cycle is often more vulnerable to capture than the decision-making phase.
  • The discussion highlighted the risk of tribalism undermining checks and balances in governance, both in DAOs and in broader political systems like the US government.
S11 E8 | The Evolution of DAOs and AI w/Nick Naraghi (Hats Protocol)

S11 E8 | The Evolution of DAOs and AI w/Nick Naraghi (Hats Protocol)

Duration: 00:58:29
April 17, 2025
  • Nick anticipates a significant shift in the Dow landscape, now estimating that decentralized, tokenized, and AI-driven organizations could outperform traditional companies in less than five years due to reduced coordination costs.
  • The conversation explores the potential for AI agents to enhance human coordination and automate work, while also raising concerns about job displacement and the need for new economic models like Universal Basic Income (UBI).
  • Hats Protocol has evolved to address organizational challenges within Dows, leading to Hats Pro, a web2-level UX application designed to streamline the setup of organization-controlled multisigs while adhering to regulatory compliance.
MINIHASH 008 | The Future of AI, Blockchain, and Financial Systems w/Alexis (Safe)

MINIHASH 008 | The Future of AI, Blockchain, and Financial Systems w/Alexis (Safe)

Duration: 00:28:35
April 10, 2025
  • SAFE is focused on providing the infrastructure, specifically smart contracts with modular security features, to enable developers to build AI agents that can interact with blockchain.
  • AI agents can use SAFE smart contracts to participate in DAOs by proposing votes, summarizing proposals for human review, and eventually, perhaps, automatically approving proposals based on learned user preferences.
  • The speaker anticipates a future where AI agents trained on personal financial data will provide personalized financial advice to individuals, significantly democratizing financial knowledge and planning.
[LIVE FROM DENVER] Rehash Hot Ones Schelling Point w/Kevin Owocki, Disruption Joe, Sophia Dew, and Rena O'Brien

[LIVE FROM DENVER] Rehash Hot Ones Schelling Point w/Kevin Owocki, Disruption Joe, Sophia Dew, and Rena O'Brien

Duration: 00:42:35
April 3, 2025
  • The panelists debated whether DAO governance actually works, with differing perspectives on their effectiveness and the role of frameworks.
  • Panelists discussed the best ways to fund Web3 projects, highlighting the importance of community engagement and diverse funding mechanisms.
  • The panelists and audience explored whether AI can fix crypto, debating its potential to address asymmetric information and improve governance.