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The Architects of AI That TIME Missed

The Architects of AI That TIME Missed

Duration: 00:19:57
December 14, 2025
  • Time magazine's "architects of AI" cover omitted crucial foundational researchers in favor of executives and promoters, potentially hindering responsible AI development by prioritizing hype over scientific advancement.
  • Google's Gemini is exhibiting faster growth than ChatGPT, highlighting the increasing importance of distribution and integration into existing platforms over direct user choice.
  • A significant productivity gap exists in workplaces, with AI power users being six times more productive than typical users due to deeper engagement with AI capabilities, creating a "sink or swim" environment for employees.