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Why Closed AI Providers Block Cyber Defense | Sagar Vaze

Oct 29, 2026

0:00-21:08 / 21:08
 

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Mistral research scientist Sagar Vaze breaks down the open-weight release of Mistral Large 4, a 1-trillion parameter multimodal model trained on 1E25 FLOPS. He explains how on-policy distillation delivers extreme token efficiency, why enterprise fine-tuning beats massive closed models, and how open weights protect cyber defenders from provider lockouts. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love. -- https://x.com/Sagar_Vaze -- MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens. Follow MTS: X | ⁠ https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠ YouTube | ⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠ Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠ Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠ Substack | ⁠ https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠ Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠ – Brought to you by: Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/ Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line. Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠ https://neon.com/mts⁠ ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠ https://arena.ai/⁠ Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com Chargebee - Billing and monetization infrastructure for the AI era. https://www.chargebee.com/ – Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:06) Why Mistral Releases Open Weights (03:30) Fine-Tuning Versus Closed Frontier Models (05:50) Reaching the True AI Frontier (10:01) Inside Mistral Large 4 Architecture (13:10) Token Efficiency and On-Policy Distillation (14:16) Open Weights for Cyber Defense (16:40) Native Multimodality and 3D Generation – Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.