When AI Agents Start Spending Your Money | Alex Rampell & Terry Angelos

About this episode

a16z General Partner Alex Rampell sits down with VGS Executive Board Member, Terry Angelos, to unpack what happens to payments when AI agents go from recommending what to buy to actually making the purchase. Terry explains the infrastructure required to safely give agents access to payment credentials, why wallets like PayPal, Shop Pay, and Link are competing to become the default payment layer for agents, and how new agentic tokens could preserve the chargebacks, identity checks, and merchant relationships that make today's payment networks work. VGS, which already secures payment credentials across a significant share of e-commerce, is now provisioning millions of these agentic tokens each week.  They also discuss what happens when merchants don't want to transact with agents, how delegated authority changes liability when an agent makes a mistake, and why AI could simultaneously increase consumer spending while eliminating the subscriptions, fees, and other forms of economic "breakage" that depend on people not paying attention. Resources: Follow Terry Angelos on X: https://x.com/terryangelos   Follow Alex Rampell on X: https://x.com/arampell Stay Updated: Find a16z on YouTube: YouTube Find a16z on X Find a16z on LinkedIn Listen to the a16z Show on Spotify Listen to the a16z Show on Apple Podcasts Follow our host: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details please see a16z.com/disclosures. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.